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by janra
Posted to Diaries, Diary on Sat Feb 12, 2005 at 06:32:45 PM PST
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Many of my stories have language issues, specifically the kind where the POV character must communicate with somebody who does not speak his/her/its language well or at all.

Maybe it's a reaction to the "universal translator" thing so common in SF.

Or maybe I just like playing with grammar and syntax.


Novel: the main character has to learn a language because she's staying with a foreign culture. Much grammatical mangling ensues.

NaNo 2003: the main character encounters people who don't speak her language and have imperfect translator machines. Much grammatical mangling ensues.

NaNo 2004: one of the important secondary characters and the POV character have no common language. Fortunately another main character is fluent in both languages, even if it isn't always around.

A short story I'm working on right now: the main character is travelling with (and learning about) a creature who only knows a little bit of her language. Much grammatical mangling ensues.

An older short story I found again recently: the main character meets other characters and they have no common language or written symbols in common. I may work on this one again, and add more grammatical mangling.

A pair of other short stories I wrote several years ago: one of the important characters in each story has no means of verbal communication with the other characters and must communicate by other means.

See a trend here?

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  • I can work with it 0%
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  • none of my characters travel anywhere they might need another language 0%
  • I speak conlang(s) 0%

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    language and communication (4.00/1) (#1)
    by sabeth on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 11:09:45 AM PST
    Have you been reading BadDoggie's Iceland diaries? There's a real-life example of language issues, with the "protagonist" being someone who is good with many languages, but still learning the language of where he happens to be.

    There's a similar thing going on in the novel that I took my nick and sig from, Homo Faber -- language (and the understanding or non-understanding thereof) features in that heavily. There's another short story I read in German class once where language and translation played a major role, but I can't remember the author/title (I'll have to go look this up now ...)

    My examples aren't exactly what you're describing in your own writing (different levels of overt grammatical mangling), but the whole issue of the ability to communicate, and the different levels of success depending on how well the characters speak each others' language, is there ... (it could also have fit in the "advantage/disadvantage" angle of ana's prompts last week).

    Languages are indeed fun to play with. I like studying dead languages in particular (they seem especially foreign, somehow). I took a semester of Old Norse once, which happens to be quite close to modern Icelandic ...

    --ich sage nicht, was ich will, sondern was die Sprache will--

    learning languages (3.00/0) (#2)
    by janra on Fri Feb 18, 2005 at 02:10:37 PM PST
    Well, grammatical mangling isn't the only language thing I'm doing. I do have some language lessons in one, but I mangle the grammar in part to show how poorly the character speaks the language ;-)

    It really is interesting how concepts translate though, and word-for-word certainly doesn't do! On another forum I visit, a member from Sweden points out that in Swedish you'd say "Welcome to contribute" where in English we say "Thank you for contributing". The intent is the same, but in Swedish it's phrased more as an invitation and in English as a pre-emptive thanks...
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    Who needs to be big and burly when you can just apply physics?
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