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by janra
Posted to Diaries, Diary on Mon Jul 26, 2004 at 10:39:23 AM PST
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Write On! has been around since January of 2001—three and a half years now—and has very little to show for it. Less than 50 articles, less than 500 registered users, only a half-dozen of whom seem to still be here.

I'm not going to shut the place down just yet, don't worry :-)

I do think it's long past time to sit down and figure out why I'm running the place, ask those who do read it to let me know how many of their reasons for visiting match my reasons for hosting, and ask for your suggestions on how it can be improved.

The topic of increasing traffic has come up before and was extensively discussed—that article has by far the most comments of any other article on the site. There were some excellent suggestions in it, some of which have been implemented.

So anyhow—a bit of history, mixed with my musings.


Write On! started because of my frustration. It really was as simple as that. I was frustrated because all of the information on writing I could find anywhere on the internet fell into one of three groups: articles presented as authoritative, critique groups, and idle chit-chat between writers. Many sites mixed two of those types, a few mixed all three, but none of those three types were what I was looking for.

You could say that Write On! started out by defining itself with negatives. It is not a site for critiques. It is not a site merely for idle chit-chat (although that is permitted in the diaries). It is not a place to publish fiction. It is not a place where people's egos would be stroked as they were told how wonderful their clumsy first-draft writing was.

Over the course of the first year, I started trying to define it with positives, based on what I was looking for that other sites didn't have. It is a place to talk about writing topics beyond the basics. It is a place for in-depth discussions about specifics. It is a place that recognizes that good writing is subjective, and that the article isn't the final word on the subject.

I think that last one was the biggie. I found a lot of the articles on other sites quite interesting and often useful, but I so often wanted to ask for clarification of a point, or argue an assertion, or offer my take on some aspect of it. None of those articles provided a way to do that. I wanted a site that would have the structure and writing quality of those articles, but let people hash it out, talk about when it works and when it doesn't, argue points of opinion with the author—and not always come to a consensus, but at least clarify why those rules set out in the article are there, or why they don't always work, or any number of other things.

So I tried to strike a balance between writing quality articles and keeping the front page moving, so the site didn't look dead, or static. At the same time, though, a lot of articles with no comments doesn't exactly promote discussion. And discussion is what I wanted.

Along the way, other people seem to think this site has good articles too—English classes, composition classes, creative writing classes have linked to one article or another. I follow the links back from my referer log and I'm tremendously flattered to see an article I wrote being listed as one of three external resources for a class.

And yet all the students who follow the link don't comment. My Google pagrank is decent, and some of the articles on this site even appear in the top 10 results for a search on their specific topic, and people don't stick around.

I know that this is the bane of community sites everywhere—for every 10 people who read the site, one will make an account. For every 10 accounts, one will comment. But I sometimes have to wonder if the prevalence of the authoritative article/idle chit-chat style of site has led writers to simply not realize that they can reply to an article here, and that I'd love it if they offered their opinion on what was written. Even if they didn't agree. Hell, especially if they didn't agree.

What I'm trying to make, here, is not just another writer's discussion board. I'm trying to make a place for writers who are serious about improving their craft, not writers who want to be told they're great. I'm trying to make a place where I can talk about more advanced aspects of writing than "what is an antagonist, anyway?" and how to use the English language. No, I'm not trying to exclude new writers, I'm just trying to focus on the people who've already figured out the basics and are trying to get even better. Maybe it's elitist of me to say that I want to get mostly good writers here instead of just anybody. Maybe it is. And maybe the people who think that need to realize that in every other endeavour, some people are better than others, and they tend to congregate on the advanced topics, leaving the basics to people new to it all. Is it elitist to separate out the beginners from the moderately experienced from the experts, so each can learn what they need in order to improve?

So, you made it all the way through my ramblings. Thank you. And if I could have a few minutes more of your time, can you let me know what it is about this site that keeps you coming back? If you are a regular contributor, what prompts you to post? If you normally lurk, please break your silence for just one post and let me know what keeps you coming here? Anonymous post or with an account, I'd love to hear from you. Do you share my vision for this site? Or (horrible thought) am I alone in this?

I want this site to reflect my passion for writing. I also want to share it with others who feel the same way.

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What exactly is Write On! for? | 8 comments (8 topical, 0 hidden)
What is it that keeps me coming back? (3.00/0) (#1)
by ana on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 03:53:30 AM PST
There are articles here that are occasionally insightful. New insights into how one actually goes about the process of sitting down, fastening one's seat belt, opening a vein, and making fiction happen are always welcome, for me.

I don't often comment because of the "occasionally" thing, and also, of course, because I'm kinda lazy. Which is also why I haven't revised that manuscript I created in a mad rush last November (but thanks for the articles about self-editing); and why I haven't figured out what I want to do with the novel-in-progress that contains most of my lifetime savings of angst.

Anyway. I hope this article will help foster discussion.
Exploring dark places since last Thursday

Google Bombing (3.00/0) (#2)
by MichaelCrawford on Thu Aug 05, 2004 at 03:59:22 PM PST
A good way to drive traffic to any web page is by getting lots of people to link it, and particularly by "Google Bombing" with carefully chosen keywords.

I asked the readers of my music downloading article to google bomb it with the phrase "free music downloads", with the result that it has ranked #4 at google for that query for quite some time, and ahead of quite a few free music download sites. It's been getting 2000 hits a day since January or so.

So what would be a good google bomb for Write On? Look through your referrer logs for the search engine queries people use to find the site. The Analog log file analyzer will tell you the queries with its SEARCHQUERY report. You want a phrase that is both very relevant (so people will want to click the link) and popular, so lots of people will be entering the query.

I can certainly give you links. I have PR 6 and PR 5 websites, so links from them will be of more benefit than most pages. (At least they had that pagerank when I last checked. I get a lot of requests for reciprocal links these days, far more than I used to.) Just tell me what text to use for the link, for your google bomb.


-- All my online writing is here.

Linked you (3.00/0) (#3)
by MichaelCrawford on Thu Aug 05, 2004 at 04:36:29 PM PST
here and here.

I just discovered the tips page is #1 at google for "programming tricks" and #4 for "programming tips". I don't know yet how the writing page ranks for anything.


-- All my online writing is here.
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As long as it's relevant (3.00/0) (#4)
by janra on Thu Aug 05, 2004 at 07:18:13 PM PST
links are good.  ("Public Service Announcement" ... heh, I like it.)

I just associate "Google Bombing" with searches for stuff like "miserable failure" returning (ahem) a certain person's biography, and so on - more about people trying to make a point (often a political one) than about getting interested traffic.

And while it's probably not a very high percentage of my traffic, I do see quite a few people coming in from pages where other people linked to my site. So I appreciate any (honest) linkage people will send my way.

I get a lot of requests for reciprocal links too - Write On's pagerank is 5, according to my other half's IE with the google toolbar. I don't do reciprocal links though. I link to sites I think are good, not sites that I think will link back to me, and I ask only the same of other websites. (Of course, "I" link to loads of sites I know nothing about via people's sigs and homepage entries, but that's another story entirely...)
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Who needs to be big and burly when you can just apply physics?
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Stay the course! (3.00/0) (#5)
by mikepence on Mon Aug 09, 2004 at 10:25:25 AM PST
I, for one, feel a warm glow as I eat my Cheerio's in the morning just knowing this site is here. Really. For me, Write On! is like that really good restaurant that you know about but that nobody seems to go to.  There is never a wait...you just keep your fingers crossed hoping it is still open for business the next time that you need it.

Since I am starting my Great American Novel I can actually see myself here instead of K5 quite a bit over the next several months. Don't let those naysayers mock you over lack of traffic, I say!

Stay the course!

who says nay? (3.00/0) (#6)
by janra on Tue Aug 10, 2004 at 09:50:54 AM PST
not directly... :-)

And as much as a quiet, private place is nice to have (I have a favourite restaurant much like you describe...) I'd like to get a few more people actively posting. Even though I completely understand the feeling of simply not posting due to not having anything of substance to say.

Best of luck with your Great American Novel!
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Who needs to be big and burly when you can just apply physics?
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Thanks (3.00/0) (#7)
by mikepence on Tue Aug 10, 2004 at 09:59:02 AM PST
Now that the Palahniuk interview has fallen through, I will be pestering all of you about writing here for a while.

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pestering? (3.00/0) (#8)
by janra on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 09:01:17 AM PST
only if you take the perspective that discussion and questions are annoying :-)
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Who needs to be big and burly when you can just apply physics?
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