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Notes from a 36-year-old freshman...

by Martooni
Posted to Diaries, Diary on Mon Jan 12, 2004 at 12:37:20 PM PST
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Today was my first day back in classes after nearly twenty years away from academia and I must say that it was well worth the wait...

Back in '85, I was fortunate enough that my parents had the desire and financial means to send me off to the school of my choice (within reason, of course). I did very well on my SATs and had several schools interested in having me, but I was a stupid, arrogant, cocky, know-it-all seventeen-year-old who thought he didn't *need* an education to make it in the real world.

Today, after nearly twenty years of slogging along in life, having to scramble and fight for every single little thing, watching street-stupid, inexperienced college grads climb right past me on the corporate ladder -- only because they had a piece of paper that I didn't -- I've finally started down the path that my parents wanted me to take in the first place. My father is now beside himself with pride and joy. I just hope that wherever Mom is (wherever, that is, we all go when we leave this world), that she's just as pleased.

I was easily the oldest student in my classes. Most of the kids around me were about the same age as my stepson, and I couldn't help thinking that if I had forgotten to "be careful and wrap that rascal" when I was their age, any one of them could very well have been my own child. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to learn I had dated some of their mothers.

Once I recovered from the initial shock of the generation gap between me and my fellow students, the rest of it was a piece of cake. During classes, I was the first (or one of the first) to speak up when the professors asked questions, and even argued (mildly) with one of them. I found that since I'm of a similar age as many of the professors, I look at them as equals (or near-equals), so I'm not as intimidated as the "younger" students to speak up or talk back. Hell, I served drinks to many of the professors from this university several years back and got to see quite a few of them with their intellectual "pants" down, so to speak -- a drunk is a drunk whether he/she has a doctorate or not.

In any case, what really amazed me was that even though this was just the first day (I was expecting little educational content, more "how to pass this course" content), I actually *learned* some things today. I like to think that I'm a fairly well-read individual (though I know that there some significant holes in my self-education), so I wasn't expecting any eye-openers on the first day of classes. Well, thanks to my philosophy professor (an area I've actually studied extensively on my own), I got my tuition money's worth the very first day. I think I'm really going to like that class.

I've only had half of my classes so far -- the other half comes tomorrow -- but I can't help but think that this is the best thing I've ever done (other than impregnate my partner, which culminated in the birth of my daughter). Even though I have a much fuller plate of responsibilities when compared to most of my classmates, I have a definite advantage over them with an extra (relatively) lifetime of experiences. While they bitch about the homework and having to actually show up in class, I'm thinking this is a piece of cake -- especially after twenty years or so of bullshit meetings, office politics, unpaid overtime, ungrateful clients and bosses, and perform-or-be-fired scenarios.

Bring it on, YSU! This middle-aged guy is ready!

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Re: Notes from a 36-year-old freshman... (3.00/0) (#5)
by swblack on Sun Feb 29, 2004 at 05:11:56 AM PST
How inspiring!  I am a 35-year-old male who has been debating whether or not to take one final swing at higher education and your post may have swayed me in the right(?) direction.  Kudos to you, sir!

school is great fun (none/0) (#1)
by janra on Mon Jan 12, 2004 at 01:35:42 PM PST
If I had no money worries, I'd probably stay a student. As it is, I still intend to keep learning, even if I can't do it as a full-time student... :-)

Also, I've found that most of my courses only had ~10 minutes of "this is what's expected of you" in the first class before swinging right into actual content.

Glad to hear you're happy!
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Who needs to be big and burly when you can just apply physics?

Useless/Useful Study (none/0) (#2)
by Enkeliina on Tue Jan 13, 2004 at 08:14:25 PM PST
Send me to any country, and if they have library, I'm there.  Learning truly inspires me.  I'm seven years out of school and I've been searching the U, C and others, for classes to take . . . and afford.  I scared myself with a thought I never thought I'd make, "I don't want to learn that."  When have I ever not wanted to learn something?  I'm a sponge!  I'm a girl, not interested in cars and I'll still read the vehicle section in the newspaper.  I've memorized the periodic table and read University level Organic Chemistry textbook, simply to jiggle those brain cells.  I bounce around from job to job, because the boredom threatens to kill me.  Once I've reached past the learning curve and find myself on a plateau I realize the dead end and jump off, to find another cliff to climb, hoping its a mountain chain and not just a butte.  

I admit I may be suffering from a superiority/inferiority complex, whch prevents me from actually taking a class.  It's too hard, or too easy.  I have difficulty with the middle road . . . finding it that is.  (Hiding under a bush perhaps?)
I'm sure this is a question many high school grads face, what to study?  I'm still looking for the answer.  It's easy - if you have a specific goal in mind.  What do you take if you don't know what you want?  I've suffered and still suffer from wanting to know everything, but not everything about everything.  The "curious lazy man" course would be perfect, but I've yet to find it.  

Being there, what does an "educated man" learn?  What is the true benefit of a "classroom?"  What do you learn that can't be learnt by taking a library apart book by book?  Having listened to my share and more of fondly regarded "old-folk," I've learnt to listen for the good stories and the advice of the ages, but, other than giving you a diploma and an over-load of info in a field you don't give a hoot about, what's the hidden treasure of Academia?

I simply want to know what robes to put on the Emperor, to convince me he "is attired"?

Words and Time my life's Obsessions.

What I'm finding Academia offers... (none/0) (#3)
by Martooni on Wed Jan 14, 2004 at 12:05:19 AM PST
Until now, I would have agreed with you whole-heartedly about the "take the library apart book by book" method of education. In fact, that's the method I used to educate myself over the past twenty years. But it obviously wasn't enough.

Books are great for facts, but facts by themselves do not equal wisdom. For that, you need life experience, discussion, debate -- and a guide who has already travelled the path (or rather, *a* path). At twice the age of most of my classmates, I have the life experience down pat. I'm also no stranger to discussion or debate -- my favorite pastime is to play "Devil's Advocate". However, I've always been too stubborn (or proud) to ask for directions, let alone allow *anyone* to guide me.

My previous approach to learning worked well enough to build a career in advertising, then in computer programming. Anyone, no matter how intelligent or dense they may be, could do the same with a little motivation and the right books and trade magazines.

My previous approach was also partly motivated by my disdain for classrooms. I couldn't stand the idea of being closed in a room with twenty (or two hundred) other people to listen to a professor summarize the facts contained in our books. How wrong I was.

This time around, with a big bag of life experience over my shoulder, I'm finding that the classroom is actually my favorite part of academia. Sure, there are some professors that could bore the head right off your shoulders, but most of mine so far (lucky me?) have been engaging, interesting, and more importantly, *interactive*. Too, it could be the subjects that I'm taking. My first time around academia was in the pursuit of a computer science / business degree, so the material wasn't all that exciting. The subjects I'm studying now are in the English and human sciences areas (psychology, philosophy and anthropology) -- all subjects that I've touched on to some extent or another during my private studies over the years.

I'll admit that at first, I wasn't sure how I would handle the classes this time around. I figured I could always skip the classes and retreat to the books, but I also (reaching deep into that bag of life experience) knew that method was flawed. I was so right. I've learned more from the few classes I've had so far than I could have through a month of private study. The insights provided by my professors have given me a greater understanding of the material in a much shorter time -- while still allowing room for questioning, discussion and debate.

So, what is the "hidden treasure of Academia?" In my humble opinion, it can be summed up in two things:

1. No matter how much I know (or *think* I know), I do not know everything
2. The unexamined life is not worth living (thanks, Socrates)

In other words, the "hidden treasure" is that Academia teaches facts, but also provides the tools needed to develop wisdom.

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withdrawal (none/0) (#4)
by Enkeliina on Fri Jan 16, 2004 at 06:52:49 PM PST
To correct any misunderstanding, I went through withdrawal after graduating H.S.  I'm still craving some sort of "classroom."  My growing frustration is probably the cause of my angst.  Going through course catalogues after course catalogues, I try to find a lightning bolt.  So who can tell me?  What does a writer study?  I'm sure every person out there has a different answer.  Depends what you like, don't know, but want to know, how to write, to know enough about something so you can write about it, and oh so many twists and turns to make me dance the tango!
I'm sure eventually I'll figure something out (maybe when I'm 36 (is that the magic age?:))

I honestly love to learn, which is why I ask questions of all and sundry.  I just can't seem to find the courses or, bigger yet, a degree, which will give me the satisfaction I crave.  It's my great flaw - spending hours deciding on a pair of shoes or a book, and then deciding I don't really, really, really want it.  

My dream would be a place I could just sit and pick brains.  One on one time with a genius.  Even as an assistant to a genius.  I honestly couldn't care less what kind of genius.  Just time to follow and challenge myself to at least see the outer edges of that person's thought  process.  Imagine just sitting in on an Einstein session?!

An issue that makes the acid pools within to bubble and boil.  I love the old idea of the teacher and the apprentice, but I suppose we can't be so old-fashioned today.  There were errors with that system as there are errors with the system of today.  Things change for good and bad.  But for whose good and bad?

I'll just call it my pity party and keep trying.  One day, soon I hope, I'll discover that happy, happy land of Adademia.

"The more I study, the more I learn.  The more I learn, the more I know.  The more I know, the less I know."  
Words and Time my life's Obsessions.
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